Just one too many litterbugs have thrown their wrappers and bottles out of their bus window on the highway, and I can not stand it anymore. I am going to let off some steam. I know it is impolite to say rude things about your hosts, but the future of our planet is more important than good manners.

From the moment we started, the single overriding impression of Indonesia is of pollution and rubbish. The place is just one great tip.  And no one cares. Just one example - we are looked at like we are weirdos because we bother putting empty drink bottles in to rubbish bins.

On ferries, everyone throws styrofoam, plastic, paper - anything - off the side into the sea. No one even looks sheepish about it. It is totally normal. Streets are coated in crap. Drains are choking with plastic.  Fires burn everywhere, adding to the most foul exhaust belching into the street from every second truck or bus. Black, dense, choking clouds, soot so thick you can chew the air. Add to the mix the haze from swarms of two-stroke motorbikes.

Why has the worldwide concern about the environment had no apparent impact here? Al Gore where are you? The absence of even any environmental consciousness is glaring.

Today we visited a National Park here in Southern Sumatra. ‘Way Kambas’ hosts five endangered mammals - elephants, Sumatran Tigers, Sun Bears, tapirs and the Sumatran rhino.  We were allowed to visit the Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary [www.badak.or.id] where a captive breeding programme is underway with 5 specimens, the largest group in captivity in the world. There are estimated to be only 200 or so Sumatran Rhino left altogther. Each animal here has 10 to 20 hectares to live in, with a pen in one corner for veterinary and other care. We spotted one animal through the jungle, and another called Torgamba [aged 28, 660kg] was in her pen when we visited.

They need help. There is not enough money for equipment or supplies. Dr Dedi Candra showed us around with Dodi Arisandi as our guide. Several heavily padlocked anti-poacher gates are testimony to the efforts they have to go to.

The facilities for the elephants are not so flash. The idea behind the creation of the Elephant Training Centre was to remove wild elephants that were threatening local villages and to train them to work in logging and tourism.  Kids go for rides on a few of these beautful creatures, while those not working graze nearby.

We wandered off through the park to an area a few k’s away and found this male elephant munching away all on his own.

We had bought some sugar bananas for lunch, and it seemed polite to share.

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76 comments to “One Big Rubbish Bin”

  1. By Natalie August 18th, 2008 at 7:44 am

    There is always an ugly side to travelling in these countries. I’m sure the rhino winked at me, looking through his bars. We take our clean country for granted. To see such squalor is such an eye-opener. We are breaking our proverbials to clean up our act, whilst other countries haven’t a clue. Very scary indeed. Am really enjoying your travelogue, both good and not so good.

  2. By Staeven Vallak August 18th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    One Big Rubbish Tip….

    Having lived in the Maldives I saw the same problem with everything just being thrown into the Ocean. Each island had it’s tip which the tide dealt with. If the tides weren’t up to the task, then set fire to it….

    I asked one guy why he just thrown his empty coke bottle off the ferry. He replied quite innocently “I didn’t want it any more, why do you ask, did you want it?” it’s the culture, there was no education about the problems of rubbish, you’d go diving and see plastic bags hanging off the coral… It was depressing.

    It dawned on me at one point that the culture was used to everything they used being bio degradable. The introduction of plastic to societies without pre-existing disposal systems has been an ecological disaster!

    Keep up the posts and I hope you find your ferry.

    Cheers,
    Staeven

  3. By Diane Pettigrew August 18th, 2008 at 10:50 am

    This description of the pollution and rubbish reminds me of travelling through Albania briefly last year, it is incomprehensible, everywhere you looked the was rubbish piled high an cars abandoned by the roadside, it simply blows your mind to see this and so I know a little of the passion you both feel to heal our planet….

  4. By Mandi G August 18th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Jon Faine feeding bananas to an elephant - shades of Wild at Heart??!! :):)

  5. By PETER HOPE August 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    What a wonderful experience for Jack (and, of course, for you Jon) he will have a lifetime of wonderful memories. You must be two brave fellas. Can’t wait for the next installments.

    P & D

  6. By Louise August 18th, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    You look so non chalant feeding such a huge, beautifuland and potentially lethal animal!! And when did the beard go??
    Pity re the pollution but I guess a lack of education is the problem. We here in Australia were pretty messy once too you know!
    Enjoy and drive safely, hope you pinch yourself everyday as you live the dream.

  7. By KIERAN August 18th, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    Jon and Jack
    Following your adventure with great interest fantastic photos and commentary on your travel, sounds like the rubbish is just like the politics there crap!.

  8. By Phil Callil August 18th, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Hey, great to read about your travels. This is what I look forward to doing one day when our boys are older.

    Two things cause such squalor - poverty and culture. The latter can be overcome by education, education, education. Remember back to the 60s and 70s what we used to re litter here in Australia? It was only changed by education.

    People surrounded by squalor know nothing else. Albania, Maldives, Indonesia all have poverty in common. Education sadly is down the list of 3rd world countries when governments don’t have enough resources or funds.

    I remember living in Japan a long time ago and swimming at surf beaches surrounded by litter in the water. The beaches were no one’s responsibility so the litter was left on the beach and the water came in …….. Japan had the money but the culture meant that, strangely, in one of the cleanest countries in the world, no one had responsibility…

    Look forward to reading about your adventures and GL with the car transport.

  9. By Ann August 18th, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    Jon and Jack,I have not been able to find you for a few days, but I do not think that I missed anything. Pity you were not here tonight, in between the Olympics, (yes I must admit, I have been on ‘7″ lately} I managed to see Ian Kiernan on Talking heads, I guess we should have sent him with you. He would smarten them up!
    Today three towns have started to charge .10c per plastic bag, so I guess it won’t be long before it is everywhere. It doesn’t bother me, but I usually am in the store before I remember to get the bags out of the boot. Please continue to enjoy and keep safe, but remember it is not long until Dec.25th! Will you make it? Cheerio, Ann.
    P.S. Wild at Heart, is a great series on Ch2. pity you have missed it, I am hoping to get the DVD for my grandchildren.

  10. By Jenner August 18th, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    Rubbish! When I lived in Northern China we had to hug the side of the apartment building as we left each day because the residents on the upper floors hurled out any/everything. A hard hat was needed.
    All the drainage channels were also choked with unbelievable detritus. Hope you’re enjoying yourselves.

  11. By Graham Haines August 19th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Jon - your comments above rubbish and Indonesia - we have just come back from a visit to Wadeye (Port Keats) in the Northern Territory. Our daughter is a teacher there. The rubbish is everywhere - even in the bush. Saying that the population are not used to non-biodegradeable bottles and cans is an insult to anyone’s intelligence. So the problem exists - even in our own country - sad isn’t it.

  12. By JanW Berwick August 19th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Mandi, Jon’s been gone long enough that he probably doesn’t know what Wild At Heart is! Jon, it’s a story about a yours, mine and ours family from the UK that relocate to South Africa to run a game reserve as a tourist resort. He’s a vet. Think ‘Neighbours’ on the veldt.

    And yeah, did it get too hot for the whiskers? Careful about sunburn on newly exposed skin.

    And last, keep up the dscriptions of the reality.

    PS: a Muslim woman with her head covered just won a heat in the women’s 200m. She is from Bahrain.

  13. By Megan W August 19th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    It is easy to say “these cultures” but it also applies to first world countries. I visited England in 2003. The rubbish in London was revolting. People just dropped their rubbish because bins are nearly impossible to find since terrorist attacks. It may not be as bad but it was certainly a lot dirtier than Australia.

  14. By Jane August 19th, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    I noticed the same attitude with rubbish when I was in Bali (2004). It is very depressing (and unsanitary!). I saw a beautiful, tranquil lagoon, with enormous lilies, surrounded by amazing stone-carved buildings. Totally ruined by the coke bottles and other rubbish floating in it.

    I agree with Staeven’s comment: it is a culture that is used to ‘disposable’ plates made of banana leaves - no problem with throwing those away! So the same thing happens with other non-degradable things, like coke bottles. The West is at least in part to blame for supplying modern consumer products whilst not supporting the local culture to adjust to having these western things in their lives.

  15. By Mr. Carne August 19th, 2008 at 10:49 pm

    I found the same rubbish problem, in Thailand; when we visited my wives family, earlier this year. Especially in the rural areas.
    Regards Bruce .

  16. By Angela Hatch August 19th, 2008 at 11:03 pm

    Hello Jon & Jack, great reading so far I am really envious we cannot do the same with our own children. My husband Adrian is currently working in Sumatra based around Pekanbaru but was working in the ports out of Dumai he informs me that there is a ferry out of there Weds/Thurs, if you are still planning that route or perhaps you have changed to a more reliable route out of Medan. If you need any help with times etc or just someone to explain the local ways I can pass on his details to you. All the best I hope your trip continues to go well. Kind regards, Angela Hatch

  17. By Andrew August 20th, 2008 at 12:16 am

    The rubbish thing is not dissimilar to the Aboriginal camps in the NT. This was sad to hear, because although the land can be cleaned up easily, what is thrown into the sea lives for a long time.

  18. By Caroline Piesse August 20th, 2008 at 8:40 am

    I am enjoying getting my Jon Faine fix each day and you speaking your mind. Still getting plenty of response from your public. Only 127 days to Christmas and spending it with Jan! It must be so frustrating but you two are certainly making the most of your time and keeping us involved for which thanks.
    Caroline in Melbourne

  19. By Yvonne Duck August 20th, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Hi Jon & Jack, Thanks so much for your updates just great to read them.The rubbish thing is terrible I did find the same problem when I was in Thailand some years ago. And yes every body does look strange at you when you put your rubbish in a bin. I do hope you can find a ferry asap. Looking so forward to your next update chow for now Yvonne

  20. By Haydn August 20th, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Dear Jon and Jack
    I have followed you in more ways than you know. I tuned in to your very first program on 3LO some 11 years ago, still welded on.I now follow your dash across Australia, racing over the bitumen to meet a non ferry.One can only imagine the belly drop when you received the news of that event.However we move on ,isn,t it the people that you meet that make the trip what it is.We can only try to get a feeling of what it must be like through you words and pictures,to somehow be there with you.
    By the way,talking about rubbish tip,we found the situation much the same in Thailand ,especially in the countryside,piles of plastic all over the place,very disappointing.However,Jon we love the pictures and articles,keep themcoming please,til next time bye Haydn

  21. By marion hunt August 20th, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Love following your trip as enjoy travel so much and yes the rubbish situation is sad

    India 2007 and prior….so much rubbish, much of which burned - really thickens the air!
    Even witness a mum throw a putrid disposable nappy in a “thick green stagnant” canal in Fort Cochi

    2008 - Signs of improvement as a few tractors with trailors collecting some of the rubbish. If no bins or collection what can people do?

    Education and work through women! House proud and tend to sweep all garbage out on to the street…as long as house is tidy they are happy…outside is not their concern. It is slowly changing

    Best wishes and enjoy

  22. By Brendan K August 20th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Well said John and Jack - manners v rubbish (litter / burning / polution etc) just completed a round trip down the Tasmanian West coast across to Hobart town and then up East coast back to Devonport what a junk yard broken forests, Queenstown and the dead Queen and King rivers litter along roadways - the locals and or their Government (or we) just don’t care.
    Have a continued safe and enjoyed journey

  23. By Shirley Armstrong August 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Hi Jon and Jack, I had a stopover in K.L.enroute to and from London. I was surprised at the beautifully kept gardens along drive from the airport[what a huge opulent complex] into the hotel. What a horrible change at the city fringe, such squalor,dirty streets and decaying old buildings, with menacing police with guns stapped over their shoulders on most street corners It didn’t impress us at all.Not a tourists’paradise.
    By the way Happy Birthday sometime soon Jon.

  24. By Joe August 20th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Jon

    Refer “Travel Coincidences” No. 34. Couldnt find a more appropriate heading / subject!

  25. By Vicki August 21st, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    Fabulous photo’s, sad story X:-/
    Keep well guys, stay safe.

  26. By Sharon , Bayswater August 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Love your posts and the photos are amazing. Problem- I need more of them!
    I am also really interested in what it is like for you two to travel together. What sort of challenges have you found? What are the similarities in the way you like to travel?
    If you have missed something of your lifesytle in Melb, what is it? finally, have you had any good coffee on your journey?

  27. By Ian August 21st, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    G’Day Jon & Jack,
    Nice to see the Fungus has gone from the FACE, now we can see what was under it !!
    As for the Rubbish, I know it is depressing to see so much of it, but what more could you expect from so many Millions of people in a small place, we have it all over the Northern Territory (which is very large) in Aboriginal settlements as seen on TV nightly, it is a disgrace, and we are spending millions of dollars on them, but cant teach them how to pick up a broom or put things in a bin etc, & if you say anything to them, the answer is “This my country, I will do what I wish with it” the same must go for the Indonesians. Ian Keenan can’t can’t educate them in his lifetime.

    Keep enjoying yourselves & watch your back’s, you have just started the journey, a lot of MIles too go yet, so look forward to more news from you,
    I.C.

  28. By Kathy at kallista August 21st, 2008 at 9:43 pm

    Hey you are still here and i am still on that hill or back on it again. More trees, more trees. I shall plant one for you both to help with the offset!!

    It reminds me of Greece in the 80’s everyone smoked and noone wore seat belts, we offended a taxi driver for puting them on he was just about ready to boot us out of the car. They just weren’t there yet. The rubbish is like us in the 60’s Remember the onik oink piggy ads litter bug era to try and get us all to be tidy.

    I just love the elephant :) I am glad he was friendly!!! I’ve meet emus wilder than that elephant, I think, ones that work as a team surround you, raid the esky and take bananas whole in one gulp.!!! and leave you stranded a top the picnic table very scarey indeed . Enjoy your magic moments and i shall return to the hill.

  29. By Paula Doherty August 21st, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Saw a programme on TV a few weeks ago that showed a similar garbage problem in Hawaii, only there the turtles eat the bags and die and the remainder floats about in the sea and becomes a huge garbage whirlpool in the middle of the ocean. YUK!! Who invented plastic? The programme presenter had a spade and dug down into the ‘beach’ but after a meter he was still digging into shredded plastic!! What is the answer?

  30. By Ian August 22nd, 2008 at 1:21 am

    Jon, Thought you may like to know ? The Dutch knocked us out of Hockey 3/2 tonight, 21st Aug, we may get the Bronze though. We did have them 2 love for a long while , oh well, maybe next Olympics !!
    IC.

  31. By skin August 22nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Another scenario: Small South East Asian Island. Lots of western tourists. Beautiful coastline, beach front bungalows, everything spotless and idyllic. 300 meters at the back of the bungalows, small road that runs down the middle of the island through jungle and forest, pretty much unvisited by tourists. Every few meters along the road large piles of refuse dumped by the bungalow operators. Much more rubbish than the local population produces on its own.

  32. By Matt Evans August 22nd, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    Can you confirm how you got the boat from Darwin to Timor? My wife and i are currently cycling from London to Brisbane, and were planning on taking a boat to Darwin.
    We wouild be happy to help with any info from our trip…

  33. By Jane August 23rd, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Greetings Jon and Jack, I’m sorry to read you are surrounded by plastic, rubbish, pollution, stench and wrinkled old beasts like elephants and rhinos! You are a virgo Jon and it’s time you came home. Do try and enjoy your birthday, but we miss you. The roses and champers await you!!

  34. By Geoff August 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    One only has to look out the window of the Ballarat to Melbourne train as it nears Spencer st station to know that all is not rosey here in Australia. Keep enjoying the trip guys.

  35. By Gary August 26th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Hi Jack and Jon,

    Great to hear that you are traversing well across the Indonesian landscape. I’ve noticed that refuse in developing countries used to be limited to pretty-well biodegradable waste (of the food and human kind). It’s when there is an easy source of western-designed consumer packaging that it becomes noticable. Unfortunately, locals haven’t differentiated between the two, and the old habits just simply transfer.

    The trek from Jiri towards Everest is littered with rubbish, but in this case, it’s left by all the would-be adventurers.

    Enjoy the rest of Indonesia!

  36. By humphrey hollins August 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Hope that you are coming to cambodia,rubbish capital of the world.I throw cans and bottles out the window here just like the natives!
    It provides an opportunity for the recyclers to make a living.
    It was not so long ago in australia that we all did it.Even today governments advertise consatantly exhorting us to be tidy,so it will be an uphill battle in the third world.
    Of course the real pollution in the world is carbon emissions and that has been caused by us greedy westerners,so we shouldnt sit too high on our horses,should we?

  37. By David at Terang August 26th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Great to keep up with your travels, Jon and Jack. Keep up your postings - they make very interesting reading.
    I am following your adventures with great interest - fantastic photos and commentary on your travels. Seems the rubbish is a real problem everywhere one goes, even back here in Australia at various locations. Our politicians are back at work(?)as from today, so one can expect more garbage from there too, I guess.

  38. By haidar alkhazaai August 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Good to hear your news hope u both well ,its my pleasur to watch ur trip,thx for send me ur news .enjoy ur time

  39. By Rodica August 26th, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Hi Jon and Jack.
    I am so glad to hear from you, and that both of you enjoying, except the rubbish problem.
    The rubbish I can understand how you fill because we are so lucky in Australia the fresh Air and it is so clean.
    Before Australia I come from a communist country so I can tell you that Australia it is very clean.
    I wish for both of you a safe trip and enjoy it.

  40. By Alan McLaughlin August 26th, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Time to move on boys!

  41. By Paul R August 26th, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    looks as though you are both having a ball! well done..and love the photos..keep them coming.
    Cheers
    P

  42. By Steven Golodate August 26th, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    Re. rubbish - India and China are much the same. Without wanting to be derogatory or parochial, they are about 100 years behind us in this respect. (I mean that western behaviour was similar perhaps 100 years ago.) However, with the state of the planet as it is, Asian countries won’t have the luxury of another 100 years to catch up. In China, the mentality is not much different, but there, hordes of street workers pick up and recycle EVERYTHING. They make a living off picking up ice-cream wrappers off the street and empty bottles from the bins and somehow making money on them. Nonetheless, don’t expect a clean country. The main shock you’ll experience when coming to China is the air pollution from so many coal-fired power plants. I have just returned from a 1,500 km train trip from Xi’an to Shanghai and the air pollution seems to be everywhere. It’s nearly blanket coverage in most areas. (Unless you go to the Gobi desert…) They direly need clean coal technologies here. But it’s not all that bad. You don’t notice it so much on the ground. (Mind you, the dust is another matter. ;-) Stay safe. Steven

  43. By Joan August 27th, 2008 at 10:57 am

    Hi Jon and Jack, just as I started to write this you Jon came on air from Singapore where I hope you retrieved your car ok and it is all in one piece. Despite the delay you both must have welcomed time spent in relative comfort with a chance to rest. It is true that until we travel in some countries we do take for granted our values, standard of living and freedom of action. So far your trip is proving even more eventful than you must have first thought, but following your journey from my comfortable home I just hope you both manage to avoid all the political troubles, get from A to B to catch your connections and have no trouble with entry permits. Keep safe and thank you for letting us share in your adventure.

  44. By Jean Wigginton August 27th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Dear Jon and Jack

    I lived in Asia (Philippines) many years ago. It was such a culture shock at first and the filth and squalor was hard to adjust to. During my 2 years there I taught my staff how to maintain the house and to dispose of all litter accordingly. On travels to Bangkok, unfortunately the same filth and squalor was abundant, but Singapore was just the opposite with the streets clean and free from litter. In all countries the people were happy and smiling and seemed oblivious to what was around them.

    Am really enjoying reading of your travels. Keep safe and well.

    Jean from Tarneit

    PS The Lions won’t be in the finals Jon, but my team is. Go Doggies!!

  45. By Davyd Lewis August 27th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    I just went past the ABC building in Southbank. Things have deteriorated while you have been away and most of the 774 people are now throwing their empty stubbies out of the window. It is building up outside the building and looks really disgusting. Rats are also a problem as they are attracted by the half eaten pizzas the ABC staff toss out at lunchtime.

  46. By Elly August 27th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    We lived in Chad (Africa) for many years, where the expats joke about the black plastic bag being the national flower and the national bird. (They fly when a whirly-whirly hits them.) I knew i’d been there too long when walking down the street was more of a chore than an adventure.
    BUT the Western ringroad in Melb is not very nice. I feel like getting out of the car and doing an emu walk along it. One time we were driving behind a truck and my daughter just about had a fit watching the rubbish falling off the back of it. She wanted to report him on the spot! It made me wonder: would we care about the rubbish if we weren’t fined for littering? I really hope we would!

  47. By JOAN TEMPLAR August 27th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Once again I check into your travels. Frustration with Indonision time tables (or lack of them) but the memories of the elephants and the rhinos will remain with you. Every traveller who goes off the beaten track comes back with lots and lots of stories, so WHY should you two be different. Enjoy.

  48. By Ginger August 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    This is why travel is such a great education. One learns to appreciate the good and bad in different cultures and places.

  49. By Ray from Hoppers (No. 1) August 28th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Jon,
    Re: Rubbish Tip…
    It’s not confined to Third World countries!
    Driving down a major road in Hoppers last week, saw a woman waiting to turn right from opposite direction casually lower her window & toss out her empty Gloria Jeans Coffee cup!!!
    She turned before I could get her rego number to report it. >:-(
    Just wear your hard-hat when walking the streets…
    Have fun!
    Ray

  50. By Don August 28th, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Hi Jon & Jack, I hope your trip improves, and the trash gets tidied up, spread the word about pollution to the locals, or the authorities. Miss you on 774, but ALI is doing a great job, but talks too fast. But she looks good too.
    Say Hi to the Royals for us all.

  51. By Richard August 28th, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Rubbish! You aint seen nothin yet. Wait until you go through Siberia or the K/Stans. The rubbish, waste, pollution is overwhelming. Paper, plastic filth everywhere. 3 of the worlds largests rivers run north from Mongolia/China/Siberia. Not a drop can be drunk!! And Australians think Global warming will be solved by all 20million Aussies using incandescent light globes!!

  52. By Lee August 29th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Hi John and Jack
    Thank you for all the wonderful travel experience.
    Rubbish a world wide problem - in some coutries more than others but scenery sounds just wonderful.
    Love the elephants too!
    Take care

  53. By Martin August 29th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Jon & Jack. Jon, get back as soon as you can. I miss your laugh on my trips to Melbourne. Your show has changed flavour, and I’m hoping you will be back in the “seat” next year.

    Enjoy your trip.

  54. By Rob August 29th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Jon & Jack
    Enjoying your reports.
    What a load of Rubbish!!!
    Was with a group on the “Reunification Express”, Hue to Hanoi, some years ago. Overnight we (4)carefully collected all our rubbish in a large plastic bag. In the morning we asked the Porter/Guard what to do with the bag. He simply opened a window and threw it out.
    Hopefully one day, someone in authority will say “Don’t do that” and this stupidity will cease.

  55. By Cheryl from Hawthorn August 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Jon and Jack

    Sorry I missed you on 774 earlier in the week, Jon - until I read that post was a bit concerned you both may be stuck in Indonesia. Glad to hear you have made it to the “mainland”. Look forward to further news.

  56. By Jan Lewtas August 29th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    I drove through Macca’s - Geelong last night and the car in front of me tossed an empty coffee cup onto the flower bed. I thought I should let him know he had dropped something, but who’s to say he’s not going to take umbrage and turn? Enjoy this great adventure, experiencing a glimpse of the life of other peoples, what a privelege. GO CATS!

  57. By sachin August 30th, 2008 at 8:17 am

    hi Jon & Jack
    been following your adventure all the way .reading about it makes me feel that i am making the trip myself.all the best on rest of the trip. miss you on 774 though!keep safe and god bless you.

  58. By Greg K August 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Well Jon welcome to the real world where most of us live. Full of rubbish and kids and overpopulation and uneducated people. But they all respond to kindness and love and give those back too.

    Great to hear you have all those problems with moving your stupid car between countries. What you should have done is use what the locals use. Yes jon use Public transport like all the real travellers out there.

    You wanted it easy but you have made it tough for yourself. Ha Ha belly laugh jon faine style.

    Sell the car jon and use the money to aid the poor!!! Join the masses of the world.

  59. By Margaret August 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Hi Jon and Jack
    Love the photos of the elephant and the rhino.
    That is a cute photo of you feeding the elephant.
    We are still missing you on 774 but Ali is filling your seat admirably. Enjoy the rest of your trip and stay safe.
    Margaret

  60. By Rosemary August 30th, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Hi John, did I notice in the photo of you sharing your banana with the elephant that you have shaved off your beard? Was it necessitated by the heat? Look forward to your return to 774.

  61. By Akis Temperidis, Vula Netu August 30th, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Hello Jack and Jon!

    Congratulations for your decision, a father with his son together. We are a couple of overlanders from Greece travelling in a Discovery 3 the opposite direction. Who knows, we may meet in SE Asia - check out our site to see where we really are. We could exchange some infos. For expample, we would like to know about your shipping company from Australia to East Timor. We plan to do the same, oposite direction next month.
    Have the best adventures of your life!

    Akis and Vula
    Chennai, India

  62. By Debbie August 31st, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Hi guys, I haven’t heard from you for a while - hope everything is okay. Looking forward to catching up with where you are and your latest adventures.

  63. By Leanne Clarke August 31st, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Hi Brendan comment no 22. As an ex Victorian now living in Tasmania for 8 years I cannot agree with your comments on litter at all. I find Tassie far cleaner than the mainland, every trip back I am taken a back by the filth in Melbourne and Sydney.

    Leanne

  64. By Alistair September 1st, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Have just returned this week-end from South Africa and stop-overs in KL Malaysia. The plastic drink bottle and plastic bags/sheeting is the worst of the polluters apart fom polystyrene floating in the sea. Education or removal of these modern ‘aides’ in packaging is essential and something the UN could undertake, as well as the ‘aid’ agencies as we all suffer the consequence of the throw away mentality.

    Continue to enjoy the experiences, even the bad!.

    Alistair

  65. By shirley September 2nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    I am following your trip with great interest, and enjoying it immensely. I was so sorry to hear that Jack has lost his diary.

  66. By Bryan D September 2nd, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Guys

    Congrats on a journey well taken so far.

    Good reading and reminds me of my early SE Asian experiences in the 70’s.

    I am interested in your photo of the horse and cart taxi. There are very similar ones on Lombok.Where was it taken?

  67. By Brian Piddick September 4th, 2008 at 11:46 pm

    Twenty-five years ago when working at Butterworth the locals too had no regard for the environment and littering. I remember commenting/getting up a couple as they threw the plastic bag and straw in which coke was always drunk out of the van, ‘that’s got nothing to do with us’ was the reply. I’ve heard of ignorance but a whole country, or countries of Asia! With a return to Bangkok last June nothing has changed and the Government here wonder what is the use if the rest of the world doesn’t do something to help. Wait until you get into China… The fact that struck me when living in Asia was that, wherever you went there was somebody. The place is that populated there is nowhere you can go and not see somebody. After growing up in QLD, living in the Territory and not seeing a soul for miles, Asia was a shock to the system. As is the case in the Sunday markets at Bangkok. Did you get lost? You weren’t the only ones. Try policing three kids and cousin and watching for the baddies from all directions.

  68. By Steve September 10th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Hi Jon and Jack. Good luck to you both … you will need it. There were times on the hippy trail in the seventies when I wished I had my own transport. Much better than being a sardine in an Indian train or sitting astride a plank in a bumppy Sumatran “bus”. Just one small complaint.(Just listening to you on 774) To the best of my knowledge (and that of the embassy in Australia) Laos is pronounced with the S, not LAO. The people are called the Lao but the name of the country is LAOSSSSS. Is this pronunciation coming from the same place as Tollybonne and Uffgunnystun?

  69. By Graham Naismith September 14th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    This is our absolute pet hate - we’ve been in national parks and people just empty the contents of their rubbish bags on the ground. All these beautiful countries that are given such little respect by the occupants. In Kyrgystan my wife spent an hour cleaning a play-part of rubbish and broken glass and everyone just stared! It will get worse as you travel - and just wait for the spitting!!! We’ve been in restaurants where the guy next to us spent some minutes bringing everything up from his lungs as we ate and then deposited it on the floor along with his still burning cigarette!

  70. By Don September 14th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Hi there J & J,What a trip, good luck to you both, don’t get too agro about the rubbish there, you should see it along the HAY Plaines in N S W.
    Ali is doing a great job on 774, but we do miss you.Keep sending the pics and info, saves me a trip. Regards from Don.

  71. By Wellyan Sutantyo September 24th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    hi J&J…
    remember me, the man who used your as a background for my photo at sheraton bandar lampung.
    just wanna say thanks for it

    have a great adventure !!!!
    Regards

  72. By Joan Boyd October 9th, 2008 at 7:03 pm

    Best wishes Jon and Jack. Ali is fantastic so watch it Jon! (Just kidding, it will be great to have you back, but she is very good!). Looking forward to reading about the “Stans”.

  73. By mary churchill October 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Regards Jon and Jack,
    interesting to hear your observation regarding rubbish. Having spent some time travelling in Tunisia this year, I was also surprised and saddened by the rubbish, a sea of blue plastic spewing out there contents or stuck to tree trunks, blowing in the wind. Vacant land, train tracks used as rubbish dumps, no organised rubbish collection on the outskirts of the cities to be seen.
    Happy travelling!

  74. By Paul Fridell November 13th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Hi Jon & Jack,

    First time having a look at your website and impressed with the quality of photos and candid accounts. This article caught my attention on account of waste management work I am currently doing in areas impacted by Dec 2004 Tsunami for United Nations Development Programme in Aceh and Nias (north Sumatra) as a waste management consultant. We are currently designing the best landfill in Indonesia which will be in Banda Aceh. However the waste issue in Indonesia is a product many typical developing countries face - community engagement, education and funding. We are finding that even given the best landfill and waste management solution in Indonesia - funded by international donors - it is still up to local government to make it financially sustainable and educate the local population. I can report though that attitudes are changing in Banda Aceh. Since the Tsunami plastics now have a price in Banda Aceh and many people make a living from collecting plastics to be shipped to Medan or reprocess into plastic bags. Also we are investigating ways to make money to support running the waste programs through the Clean Development Mechanism under the Kyoto Protocol. This where developing countries can sell carbon credits (e.g. for burning landfill gas - mostly methane - a significant greenhouse gas contributor) to western industries (e.g. Vic coal companies) who need to offset their own carbon emissions.

    Best of luck in the stans.

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